“Yes, it just would have been easier.”
Dr Forsyth, looked back down at her notes, and added a few new ones.
“Okay, so you moved off campus in your third year” Is that correct?”
“Yes, I shared an apartment with two friends and Katie likewise with her friends.”
“Did this arrangement better suit you for having sex with Katie than the high-risk public sex?”
“Yes, those two years were fantastic. We could take our time, we could have sex pretty much whenever we wanted to.”
“From when you moved into the apartment, did you have any risky public sex from that point forward?”
“No, not that I remember.”
“Did Katie ever ask you to sneak off somewhere to have sex publicly at all?”
“Maybe a few times early on, but we had either her room or mine we could use so I said there was no need to risk getting caught.”
“Did it cross your mind at the time that Katie may have enjoyed the risk, that she may have craved it. Did you not want to provide that for her?”
I sat and thought on that question for a moment.
“Honestly, I don’t think I thought about it that deeply, that I was denying her something. I was a 20–21-year-old guy. I don’t think I understood a whole lot about Katie’s sexuality at that time, I kind of wished that I did, if I knew it was important to her I would have done it.”
“Don’t beat yourself up, a woman’s sexuality can be hard for a man to understand even after a number of years of marriage, just ask my first husband.”
Ana was smiling at me, this was the first time she had let some personality sneak through her professional demeanor. I nodded back with a smile as well.
“So just to give you a little insight into my history Greg, I too was cheated on in my first marriage, for me we were never able to reconcile, but I was fortunate enough to then meet my current lovely husband of over thirty years and have three wonderful children.”
“So Greg, sometimes when a marriage is in trouble, not always is it best for you that it is saved.”
“I am not saying that will be the case for yourself and Katie, but you need to keep that in your mind Greg. Don’t just get wrapped up into what needs to be done to have you and Katie back together, you need to be able to first ask yourself, should we?”
I nodded in agreement, as again Dr Forsyth added a few notes before proceeding.
“I want to skip forward to roughly one year after you were married and Katie began seeing her ex-boyfriend again. I know you were unaware of these encounters at that moment, but do you recall any change in Katie at that time? Her moods, how she may have acted on the days she would meet with him or the day after?”
“No, I have thought about this a lot after I found out. I could not think of anything, anything at all that I could look back and say I should have seen that coming. She was always the same person to me no matter which day it was. We still had great sex lives. We still did everything together. We were still very affectionate with each other even in hindsight on the day before or after she was meeting for ‘encounters’.”
“Katie is not here, so from now on let’s say what she was doing Greg. She was meeting her ex-boyfriend so that they could fuck. They were fucking. And while we are at it, let’s stop calling him her ex. At this point there was no ex about it. We can call him her boyfriend or by his name. Which do you prefer?”
“His name will be fine. His name is Jake.”
“Okay, so for two years Katie was fucking Jake almost every Friday. I understand why you and Katie would spend your Friday night’s with your own friends, Katie spelled it out pretty clearly that it was her two friends from high school that began trying to be rid of you on those nights so that they could have their high school friend Jake be with them instead? Is that right from your perspective?”
“Yes, they were pretty successful too, although I’m not entirely convinced that Katie did not wish for or help them in that goal.”
“You think Katie helped plan this?”
“I don’t think so before she met up with Jake again for the first time, but from that point on I think she did. I think she wanted to fuck him every Friday and wanted to ensure that happened.”
“What makes you think she did not help plan to meet him the first time?”
“I overheard Katie with her two high school friends talking about this the day I left her.”
Dr Forsyth looked down at her notes again.
“That would be Rachel and Simone, correct?”
“Yes. Katie was blaming them for setting up that first time with Jake. She was accusing them of screwing up her marriage by bringing Jake to the club that night.”
“How did you overhear this?”
“I had walked up to the front door of our apartment, I was there to collect the rest of my stuff so I could move out. I could hear them talking inside. Yelling rather.”
“Was this the day after, the Saturday?”
“No. So I went back to the apartment on Friday night after being told about Katie and Jake by a friend. I slept there that night and woke up with Katie asleep besides me. I confronted her that morning, then spent that night at my best friend’s place. On Sunday morning is when I returned to pick up my stuff. I saw her friend’s car parked out front. When I got to the door they were having an argument. I stood there and listened before I went in.”
“So, Katie blamed them for bringing Jake to the club. Did you overhear anything else before you went inside?